Bowser Jr./ Shadow Mario (Mr. G + Phinos)

[Phinos]

We told you we would submit Junior!! Here is our submission!! I hope you'll like it!!

[glow=red,2,300]Character[/glow]
Name: Bowser Jr.
From: Super Mario Sunshine
Year: 2002
System: GCN

Name: Shadow Mario
From: Super Mario Sunshine
Year: 2003
System: GCN


[glow=red,2,300]Stats[/glow]
Bowser Jr.'s stats

Speed: 5/10
Jump: 6/10
Strength: 6/10
Weight: 5/10
Fall: 8/10
Traction: 5/10

Shadow Mario's stats

Speed: 6/10
Jump: 6/10
Strength: 5/10
Weight: 5/10
Fall: 4/10
Traction: 5/10


[glow=red,2,300]Pictures[/glow]






[glow=red,2,300]B Moves[/glow]
Bowser Jr. 's moves (from NSMB and SMS)

B: Koopa Striker
B>/<: Power Shell
B^: Goop Slash
Bv: Dematerialize

Koopa Striker: Bowser Jr. pulls out a random Koopa shell and kicks it, sending it sliding along the battlefield. The shell can obviously fall off a cliff, but it can also bounce off walls and obstacles. There are four different shells, with their own effects:
- Green shell: just like the item from SSBM, but not as powerful
- Red shell: just like the item from SSBM, but for a much shorter time
- Blue shell: goes very fast, but less powerful than a green shell
- Yellow shell: may stun the opponent

Power Shell: Bowser Jr. hides in his shell and dashes along the platform to ram his opponents. You can control the shell with the analog, like Yoshi's Egg Roll. If you keep pressing B, this move deals more damage, but it also hard to control.

Goop Slash: A clone of Marth's B^ move; Bowser Jr. leaps upward, slashing the air above him with his Magical Paintbrush , damaging the opponents for 12%. This can be a good recovery move, but it's mainly vertical.

Dematerialize: Bowser Jr. turns liquid like, then the form of Shadow Mario appears. It turns solid and Shadow Mario appears.

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Shadow Mario's moves (from SMS)

B: Triple-Shot
B>/<: Paint Sprint
B^: Flip Shadow
Bv: Materialize

Triple-Shot: Shadow Mario does three slices of the staff, then shoots a paintball that splits into three different balls. Each ball does 7% damage. It's not very powerful, but it can be pretty hard to dodge.

Paint Sprint: Shadow Mario shoots froward, spinning his Magical Paintbrush in front of him? This attack deals 11% damage to opponents. Kind of like Link's ^B just sideways.

Flip Shadow: Shadow Mario crouches down, charges and shoots up doing a flip, behind him a streak of blue light. It's bit like Fox' up B move. Every opponent hit will be damaged for about 10%.

Materialize: Shadow Mario turns all liquid-like, then his shape changes to Bowser Jr.s shape. It hardens and Bowser Jr. appears.


[glow=red,2,300]FINAL SMASH!![/glow]
Mecha Bowser: Bowser Jr. hops into Mecha Bowser. They jump up, and land in the backround. From there, he shoots massive amount of bullet billls and breathes flame everywhere. Nearly impossible to avoid.




We couldn't find any Extreme for Shadow Mario. Help would be appreciated...


[glow=red,2,300]Taunt[/glow]
Bowser Jr.'s taunt

Bowser Jr. laughs and swings his paintbrush. If Bowser Jr. is wearing his bandana (see picture), he pulls it down, laughs, then pulls it back over his mouth.

Shadow Mario's taunt

Shadow Mario yells "Hah!" and points at the screen.


[glow=red,2,300]Entrance[/glow]
A large red hot air balloon drops Bowser Jr. onto the stage


[glow=red,2,300]Ending Theme[/glow]
Bowser Jr.'s ending theme

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Shadow Mario's ending theme

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So?

[Shrikeswind]

Don't like Junior's Neutral-B move (doesn't fit him) or Shadow's stats (he was as agile as the real Mario,) but for the most part this is an awesome submission. The Extreme for Shadow could be him creating a giant goo Pirahna Plant.

[Phinos]

The B move is from New Super Mario Bros. I wanted to give him this move so as to avoind giving him a paint-based moveset. But if ou don't think it's suitable, then we will try to change it. As for Shadow stats, it's not a problem, I will change them!!
Thanks a lot for the approval, and thanks as well for the Extreme idea, which sounds great!! Let's see what Mr. G thinks about it!!

[IVIr.G]

Oh yeah!! I forgot about stats. Whoops.

BTW, I like that Final Smash Shrikeswind. Thanx alot! Go ahead and add it up there Phinos. And Shrikeswind, Power Shell really is one of his attacks from NSMB.

[Shrikeswind]

I know, but since anyone can kick a shell, it just takes away from the creativity.

[Johans Nidorino]

Woo, finally.

Here's my opinion on the moves:

Koopa Striker:
IMO, apart from Koopa Shell being an item for everyone, it has not much of a B move. It'd be more suitable for Forward + B. Anybody could argue with Shrikeswind that Link has TLoZ bombs while there's already a Bob-omb item, which is valid to an extent if you don't look at power or them being from different origins. So if you insisted in making a Koopa Shell appear, I'd assign it to Forward + B and use effects that are even more different (however your Yellow Shell sounds too made-up to my taste, unless it has appeared like that in any RPG or sports game I've not played yet).

Power Shell:
Perfect!

Goop Slash:
Since Shadow Mario would already be playable, I'd rather give Bowser Jr. attacks that are unrelated to his paintbrush. I can't say I've not seen him using his paintbrush in games like Mario Power Tennis, though, but that's my opinion.

Dematerialize and Materialize:
So perfect they seem obvious!

Triple-Shot:
Sounds okay, but how fast will it be?

Paint Sprint:
I don't understand it!

Flip Shadow:
How will it work when he is in the air?

Mecha Bowser:
I could totally see it in a SSB game! But I envision it appearing in the background so that it could fire Bullet Bills, its flamethrower, and ocassionally a blue Bullet Bill as an easter egg.

And I agree on that Final Smash for Shadow Mario, unless there was another paint creature from SMS we all are forgetting right now.

Sparse/minor comments:

• Is Bowser Jr. officially too young to shoot fireballs from his mouth? Thing is, I miss the flames Bowser used in SMB, SMB3, and NSMB. But he now uses a huge fire breath in 3-D model games including the Super Smash Bros. series. I do know Bowser Jr. has never used them, at least in SMS and NSMB, but would it hurt to give him such an attack?
  
• I remember Shadow Mario's moves are similar to Mario's... He can also make that spin jump, can't he?
  
• This is not a suggestion; just a thought. Shadow Mario seems to me like the most logical replacement for Dr. Mario, at least stat-wise. Shadow Mario is supposed to be like Mario, so if some of the moves were somewhat similar to those of Dr. Mario's in SSBM, then Bowser Jr. / Shadow Mario should please those who care for competitive play and like to use Dr. Mario in case Nintendo decides Dr. Mario no longer satisfies their needs of reviving its history or promoting a recent game.

[Kriven]

Hmmm... Some of the attacks bother me... I'll go into detail later.

[IVIr.G]

Triple-Shot:
Sounds okay, but how fast will it be?

Paint Sprint:
I don't understand it!

Triple Shot is from Tennis. So it goes that speed.

Paint Sprint is from Tennis also. Play it!!

[Kriven]

Hmm... the attacks just don't even out well in my opinion... BJ's is too shell based, SM's too paint-based.

I'm not sure if this is still around but I "Challenge" this submission.

[Shrikeswind]

Ah, we haven't had one in a while, no less one that was ever completed. Phinos and/or Mr. G, do you accept the challenge?

[IVIr.G]

I accept, but Phinos needs to add the Extremem still.

[Ansur]

They should have 1 extreme.

And I think it should be "Rematerialize" for Shadow Mario. It rhymes.

[Shrikeswind]

1 Final Smash doesn't work for these two. They don't have the same abilities.

[Johans Nidorino]

Yeah, remember there was a Zelda Kirby and a Sheik Kirby. The same could be done for Final Smash moves IMO.

[IVIr.G]

ansur said:

They should have 1 extreme.

Yeah, wouldn't work

ansur said:

And I think it should be "Rematerialize" for Shadow Mario. It rhymes.

No.