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Post by Bestgamer1 on Sept 10, 2008 16:59:14 GMT -5
1. What do you think of tier lists? Do you think they matter or not?  2. I remembered that everyone enjoyed Brawl, but now it seems that it's getting less and less popular. Why is that? This is just out of curiousity. |
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Post by IVIr.G on Sept 11, 2008 18:02:15 GMT -5
I never even knew what a tier was.
Because most people just played for hours and hours for maybe a day or two and wrote reviews without really doing anything.
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Post by Bestgamer1 on Sept 11, 2008 19:10:51 GMT -5
Because most people just played for hours and hours for maybe a day or two and wrote reviews without really doing anything. I've played it for quite a while, and I still find it enjoyable. It's a bit strange, but oh well. |
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Post by Shrikeswind on Sept 11, 2008 19:20:18 GMT -5
1. In my opinion, tiers don't matter. I played Mewtwo in Melee and I played him well because I practiced. That's what makes a character good, how much time you log on them. A tier list, in my opinion, is just a way of saying how quickly someone can get the hang of a character's quirks, tricks, stats, and moves. Since people take tier lists to mean that a character is better than another, people start sounding really annoying with their nonsense about a character's being better than another. Which is one of the reasons I don't ask for tiers or how easy to pick up on a character is, another being that it'd be hard to determine without playing with the whole scope of a character's abilities and the third being the potential for folks to submit their favorites and say "This character is God Tier."
2. Partially because Brawl feels similar to SSBM, partially because Brawl seems like it was over-hyped (opinion), partially because most of the things people were looking forward to aren't spectacular (can we say "online," boys and girls?), and partially because Nintendo's doling out some pretty wicked games that take the attention off of Brawl.
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Post by Bestgamer1 on Sept 11, 2008 20:54:11 GMT -5
1. In my opinion, tiers don't matter. I played Mewtwo in Melee and I played him well because I practiced. That's what makes a character good, how much time you log on them. A tier list, in my opinion, is just a way of saying how quickly someone can get the hang of a character's quirks, tricks, stats, and moves. Since people take tier lists to mean that a character is better than another, people start sounding really annoying with their nonsense about a character's being better than another. Which is one of the reasons I don't ask for tiers or how easy to pick up on a character is, another being that it'd be hard to determine without playing with the whole scope of a character's abilities and the third being the potential for folks to submit their favorites and say "This character is God Tier." I agree there because I care nothing for tiers either. I am an Ike and Meta Knight mainer and Ike has a steeper learning curve than Meta Knight, but is overall great, which brings me to something else I forgot to ask. Why is Ike considered bad? The way I see it, Ike is very lethal when mastered. I expected similarity to happen there. I can understand Nintendo's releasing some kickass games, but what I mean is that there is so much of "I hate Sakurai" or "Brawl sucks". That's what I mean. I can't understand that. Wasn't it Sakurai who came up with SSB in the first place? BTW, how is online With Friends? Is it any better than With Anyone? |
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Post by Shrikeswind on Sept 11, 2008 23:43:42 GMT -5
1. In my opinion, tiers don't matter. I played Mewtwo in Melee and I played him well because I practiced. That's what makes a character good, how much time you log on them. A tier list, in my opinion, is just a way of saying how quickly someone can get the hang of a character's quirks, tricks, stats, and moves. Since people take tier lists to mean that a character is better than another, people start sounding really annoying with their nonsense about a character's being better than another. Which is one of the reasons I don't ask for tiers or how easy to pick up on a character is, another being that it'd be hard to determine without playing with the whole scope of a character's abilities and the third being the potential for folks to submit their favorites and say "This character is God Tier." I agree there because I care nothing for tiers either. I am an Ike and Meta Knight mainer and Ike has a steeper learning curve than Meta Knight, but is overall great, which brings me to something else I forgot to ask. Why is Ike considered bad? The way I see it, Ike is very lethal when mastered. Ike isn't a very easy character to master by any angle, and some folks aren't very patient, so they'll log more time with characters who master more easily like, say, Marth, and ignore the characters who take slower, stronger steps. People like to complain. In this case, it may come from the dropped content (which, by the way, was dropped because of the same people complaining about it in Melee) and the addition of content they don't like. In my opinion, it's pretty much the same. Except you can talk to other people by taunting and you'll find fights more often on With Anyone. |
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Post by IVIr.G on Sept 12, 2008 7:14:56 GMT -5
I actually thought Ike was very easy, but I didn't want to take the time and main. I just about MASTERed Olimar and have other mains with Marth, Wolf, and Yoshi.
I would say With Friends is better, but you have to plan it out, I would call them up then we'd chat turning the phone on speaker.
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Post by Bestgamer1 on Sept 12, 2008 14:59:52 GMT -5
I actually thought Ike was very easy, but I didn't want to take the time and main. I just about MASTERed Olimar and have other mains with Marth, Wolf, and Yoshi. How so? Even though most Ike users are the typcial spammers, I haven't seen or heard of another Ike master other than Infern. |
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Post by IVIr.G on Sept 13, 2008 12:28:03 GMT -5
I'm probably wrong, that's just my opinion. If I tried it would be hard of course.
But whatever, like I said, I've almost entirely MASTERed Olimar.
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Post by Bestgamer1 on Sept 13, 2008 13:10:03 GMT -5
I'm probably wrong, that's just my opinion. If I tried it would be hard of course. But whatever, like I said, I've almost entirely MASTERed Olimar. That's okay. Olimar is worth using that's for sure. |
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Post by D.A.N. on Sept 19, 2008 0:44:49 GMT -5
1) Tiers have a use, but it's based on what you think they mean. Tiers don't measure which characters are best, they measure which characters are easiest to win with and more specifically, which character is winning the most tournaments.
2) One reason is that the online (like all of Nintendo's) still sucks. The other reason is that a small portion of the Smash community prefers Melee to Brawl (just like some liked 64 over Melee, fools) because Melee has all these glitches and exploits. So naturally many pros don't like or play Brawl. I find this to be stupid. The same thing happened with Halo 3. It was tweaked so players can't pray on casuals with exploits, and the pros hate it.
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Post by IVIr.G on Sept 25, 2008 20:36:28 GMT -5
I find it funny when pros throw fits on all the message boards.  |
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