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Post by Johans Nidorino on Jul 2, 2007 2:31:54 GMT -5
Okay, so I take it you (Shrikeswind) didn't like him so much. Actually I was willing to discuss this furtherly in the Smash Bros. Dojo!! thread, but I made this one (while avoiding being off-topic) if you still don't know what to do with his entry on the site. Two things: - Why did you originally think Forward + B was the only way to perform the body slam? Usually you tend to do everything intuitive or true to the original games, which in this case would have resulted in the body slam being a chargeable B. The current belch is as made-up as the fart and not even confirmed in the site (maybe only implied).
- It's hard to show that the Wario Waft was originally meant to be his Final Smash for these reasons: (1) They never said the Wario Waft would be the Wario equivalent of the Mario Finale / Triforce Slash / Cook. (2) Since they revealed the concept of Smash Balls being the way to perform Final Smash moves, the concept collided with what Sakurai said one year ago: that the Wario Waft built power over time. (3) Remember they invented it themselves and it's totally made-up.
So my proposal is: give him game-based moves as possible, including some WarioWare (WarioWare outfit is okay).
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Post by Shrikeswind on Jul 3, 2007 19:56:07 GMT -5
The belch actually WAS a real move of his. In Wario Land 2, if a penguin enemy attacked you, your motion would become very hard to control, and you'd burp a ball of gas by hitting B. I didn't want another ball, and given that, when he was assigned the burp, his gross needed expansion, I decided to stick with that, but in a modified form: A regular burp.
And to the question: I thought Side-B would be the best place for the Arm-ram because, well, quite simply, the Arm-ram is signature (hence a B move) and was better suited (in my opinion) to a Side-B. Notice that DK's signature move hit the Down-B and Jigglypuff's the Up-B. Nothing wrong with a signature move hitting a Side-B. But what made that move seem so Side-B was the fact that he could keep moving as long as the control stick was held. That would mean he would be stopped by releasing the control stick, as if he were walking.
The Wario Waft was always questionable, given that his fart in the trailer gave him the appearance that he was really extreme, like a Final Smash. Translated to Smash, he could very well just build up power the longer you went without using it, and also that, at the time, we also didn't know Final Smashes would be unrepeatable, so if Wario grabbed the ball again shortly afterwards, assuming both times he did the attack immediately, it'd have been less powerful than if he had waited a bit on grabbing it or attacking later.
Meanwhile, I have a bad temper. You probably know that. Sometimes I say things I don't mean (example, "I ARDENTLY REFUSE THIS UPDATE HAPPENED!") It's too late now. This, by the way, ties in with a thread I'm about to make.
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